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    hi Im a new knitter and would like to knit some socks I dont know how to knit on double pins in the round !!! can socks be knitted with just two pins !
    Thanks Carie

  • #2
    Since you are new to knitting, I would suggest you check out a sock knitting book from the library and start with the basic one at the first of the book. Or even find a knitting group near you.

    You might even want to look for a basic sock kit, one that has good recommendations.

    Sock knitting is not that easy for a novice knitter, but also, they aren't THAT difficult if you stay calm and read your instructions carefully.

    Also, there are of course traditional sock patterns, and then there are "toe-up" sock patterns. I think the toe-up design sounds really nifty and one of these days I am going to try that approach.

    There are also ways to knit the two socks at the same time, which Ive never tried.

    But if I were you, I'd stick with traditional and find a group to ask for help when you get muddled. THe four or five double pointed needles seem imposing, but they're not that tricky. The most difficult part is connecting the stitches after casting on, so that it's in the round. It is vital there be no twist ... all stitches must be upright. That probably doesn't make sense if you've never had to connect stitches to do circular knitting, but imagine a straight line of cast on stitches...you twist it once like a mobius circle and then connect, and voila, problems. So there's your first hurdle.

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    • #3
      Ha ha! I've found an ingenious device! Its a bendy needle. You can use any pattern that says use 4 needles and knit in the round. You just go round and round and round. You'll have a problem remembering where you are with the heel but it's dead easy to mark the various spots with a bit of different coloured wool. C16th stockings even had a pretend seam up the back. (For Cosmic - you knit in the round producing - stocking stitch! - but do two purl stitches when you hit the pretend back seam. Don't you think that's neat? Or down right crazy?)
      So your choices are - dig out a sock pattern that knits the thing flat on two needles and sew it up the back seam.
      Or use a traditional pattern and learn to knit with 4 needles. It's not hard. The worst bit is not letting holes develop when you switch needles. It's not rocket science. Just pull the wool tighter at that point or do the neat trick of slipping a knitted stitch onto the new needle before working with it.
      Or get yourself a bendy needle

      Just got to add this as a goal to aim for. The shepherds on the French marshes could knit a pair of knee high stockings, on stilts, while minding their flock of sheep...in a day!

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      • #4
        Are you talking about a circular needle?

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        • #5
          Probably. It's like a bit of thick bendy plastic not thread/not cord/not tube (maybe it's thin tube?) with like half a knitting needle, the pointy half, stuck on each end.

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          • #6
            Ah yes, circular needles. I personally found it awkward to turn heels on circ needles, but that's just me...I'm...different...get stuck thinking a certain way. Also, I learned on four dp needles and so I have trouble shifting to some other way. =P

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            • #7
              Try this pattern if you are new to socks. Sirdar 9135 not only does it have socks it has wristwarmers and legwarmers too, all knitted on 2 needles. Easy instructions for turning the heel and its double knit so they grow fast!!
              Tarina
              http://tarinaknits.blogspot.com

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              • #8
                I have knitted loads of socks over the years - I used to commute to London, an hour and a half each way on the train - and I have done both four and two needle types. But I stopped doing the two needle ones very early, when my Dad said that they were nowhere near as comfortable to wear, as the seam runs along under your foot. So I would recommend four needles (which also have the advantage that they don't take up much space, and since the 'rows' (stitches on each needle) are much shorter, you can always carry on and then just finish the one you are on, and then roll it up and stick it in your bag.




                Some things I worked out by trial and error (and asking my Mum):
                • When casting on, do about four or more stiches than you need on all but the last needle. Then transfer them over to the next one, as the first however many on that one.
                • Like Susan said - when you have cast on and are about to join it into a circle, line it all up and make sure there are no twists. I lay the whole thing out flat, and make sure the row hasn't twisted between needles. Then pick it up, check again, and do the first needle, then check again. And if there is a twist between the needles, you can either unpick back to the join, or just be ruthless and knit straight over it and have a little twist in the top. Which helps to prove that they are hand made. (My excuse for most mistakes I make when knitting.)
                • Heels aren't that hard, they just have a huge mystique to people who have never done them. Just follow the pattern, and do them in one go (so do it when you have time to do the whole heel without interruptions) for the first few. I was on the train once, got out my knitting, and the city gent sitting opposite me said 'Are you knitting socks?' Then when I said yes, said 'Are you going to be turning the heel? May I watch?' It's a funny way to spread happiness, but I turned the heel and explained what I was doing, and he thanked me profusely when we got to his station!
                • Heels are worked by knitting a strip on one of the needles (the 'middle' one of the round, so you are working on two needles only at that point), then when the strip is long enough, you pick up stitches all down the side of it, knit the rest of the way round to the other side, and pick up some more stiches , then carry on along the strip you just did, and you have turned the heel and joined the group of stunningly impressive people who know how to do that. Then when people say 'did you turn the heel yourself' you say 'yes - it wasn't hard' and they are very impressed and only you know just how truthful you are being... (It is very easy once you do it).
                • There are two ways of finishing the sock. One is to cast off and sew up the toe, the other is to 'graft' it, which is a sort of knit it together with a darning needle finish, and makes a very smooth toe. I always graft them, and I ALWAYS have to get the instructions out and follow them! Once I have done the first three or so stitches, it is easy - but remembering what order you keep on and slip off and so on needs writeen instructions! But it leaves you with a smooth toe that fits together beautifully, with no lines or seams to catch the toes.
                • For the first few pairs, don't do any fancy cables or patterns - I found that anything more complicated than a ribbed top was too much until I got the hang of them.
                • If sticking your knitting into a bag, watch out that you don't push the needles out of the knitting - the downside of needles with a point at each end is that the knitting can come off each end...
                Patons do a 'sock book' (large booklet) with a selection of patterns in it, including stockings for wearing with kilts (you are in Scotland, and once people find out you can do socks in the round, they will want those - but be warned, they can seem like the legs go on for ever!) It has a brown cover, and it has been available for donkey's years, and is the one I mostly use. I would be surprised if any knitting shop that sells patterns doesn't have it in stock.

                And finally - I like knitting socks. They are fairly quick, easy to do, and you feel very clever with four needles going.

                Good luck, and have fun.
                Dagna
                The living embodiment of the phrase 'not a morning person'
                Examples of my jewellery and photography are on my home page: http://www.seshat.com
                Folksy shop: http://www.folksy.com/shops/Dagna

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                • #9
                  Wow! That's brill. I go wobbly at the thought of turning heels but when I actually do it, you are quite right, it's pretty obvious what to do.

                  Now, can you solve this problem? I have some I can't part with: llama wool socks that went up a vocano, the first Tudor stockings I knit myself (really fine 2 ply wool) and gorgeous russet coloured Tudor stockings knitted on a 100 year old stocking machine. They've all got holes where the toes and heels should be. I know I should sit there repairing that lot but is there a sectret to reinforcing heels and toes right at the begining?

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                  • #10
                    Okay, I am confused abou casting on four or more stitches...except for the last needle. Doesn't that mess it up when it comes time to do the heel turning?

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                    • #11
                      My Mum told me to knit linen thread in with the wool - then you get a linen toe or heel when the wool wears out (and you can darn onto it as a base). (My Mum is much better at knitting than I am, and much faster.)
                      Dagna
                      The living embodiment of the phrase 'not a morning person'
                      Examples of my jewellery and photography are on my home page: http://www.seshat.com
                      Folksy shop: http://www.folksy.com/shops/Dagna

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                      • #12
                        Meant to answer two at once and forgot - you don't keep the extra stitches on the needle - you slip them onto the next one, and carry on casting on from there, so you get the right number of stitches and miss the awkward bit where you are casting on to an empty needle.(So if you need 72 stitches on each needle, you cast 76 onto needle one, slip the last four onto needle two, carry on and do a total of 76 on that, slip the last for onto needle three, and then carry on to 72 on needle three. Same number of stitches, but without a fiddle at the start of the needle.)
                        Dagna
                        The living embodiment of the phrase 'not a morning person'
                        Examples of my jewellery and photography are on my home page: http://www.seshat.com
                        Folksy shop: http://www.folksy.com/shops/Dagna

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                        • #13
                          Thanks but Im bad enough with straight pins at the moment

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                          • #14
                            Aw thanks Tarina

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dagna View Post
                              My Mum told me to knit linen thread in with the wool - then you get a linen toe or heel when the wool wears out (and you can darn onto it as a base). (My Mum is much better at knitting than I am, and much faster.)
                              Gee, your mom is smart!! What a great idea!!!!

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