help !! before I throw it all out of the window

[sunrise]

right very new to this jewellery making lark but know that I'm going to love it BUT I want to make drop earrings using beads and headpins but I can't get the loop at the top to go right
went to see my friend at hobbycraft today as she was doing a jewellery making demo and she showed me how to do it
came home just can't do it at all
she made a loop and then twisted the leftover wire round like a coil and she made it look sooooooooooooooooo easy
i've decided to put the coil on hold at the moment as I can't even get the loop right lol
I bend the headpin to 45 degrees then use my pliers to work the wire round into a loop but on the odd occasion when I can actually get the loop to look anywhere half decent its not facing upright but to the side
please please please help me out as its all going out the window within the next hour !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AmyE]

what equipment are you using?

[sunrise]

headpins and hobbycraft pliers
could it be the pliers that are the problem
not sure what type they are ??

[sunrise]

they were only £2.50

[AmyE]

I usually use two sets of pliers - round nosed and also flat ones to mould it round the round nosed pliers. You can do it with just the round ones but to finish it off i need the flat ones.

[auntynet]

Hi Sunrise. Stop worrying - we've all been through this when we start and making the perfect loop takes a lot of practice. There are times when I don't get it perfect but I don't let it put me off.

If the loop is a bit "skew-if" when you've done it then gently straighten it with your flat pliers. If this knocks your loop out of shape, then just titivate gently with the round nose pliers till you're happy. Its all trial and error and remember . . . . . Rome wasn't built in a day so don't be too critical on yourself.

Practice, practice, practice - you'll get there if you want to.

[sunrise]

I'm probably being really thick here but here goes anyway lol
how do I know what type of pliers I have ??
and how on earth do you manage to hold everything
I CAN'T DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I want to be able to

[sunrise]

had a quick look on e.bay at pictures of pliers and have decided that I haven't got round nose pliers
that could be part of the problem couldn't it

[AmyE]

well are they flat or round!! lol! google the different types to see which one you have got if youre still not sure.

[AmyE]

our posts crossed! yeah you def need round ones to wrap the wire around.

[Kiamyka]

http://reviews.ebay.com/Wire-Wrapped...00000005645186
see if this helps you - I made loads of dodgy ones as well when I 1st started - just keep practicing

[sunrise]

that would explain a lot then lol
no wonder I can't make a nice loop with flat nosed pliers
but how on earth do you manage to hold the pliers, the headpin keep the beads still etc
its all such hard work lol

[sunrise]

what are charm nose pliers ?? do you need those as well

[craftynclothy]

I just use round nose pliers and flat pliers. It takes a bit of practise but once you get it you'll be doing it as quick as your friend

[auntynet]

what are charm nose pliers ?? do you need those as well

They are chain nose pliers - the ones with the big flat plastic ends. You dont NEED them - the plastic pads are basically to stop any damage being done to your metal findings from the metal tools.