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    Hi, I made some soap with clear melt and pour base and added vanilla fragrance and blue cornflowers. After a day the soap began to discolour and has now turned almost completely brown! Is this from the flowers? Too many? Or has the vanilla somehow reacted with the flowers? Advice welcome and any suggestions for good combinations to use. Thanks!

  • #2
    I think it might have been both flowers and vanilla fragrance. To my experience vanilla fragrance discolors heavily soap to tones of yellow to brown, although in CP soap.
    Long live your bar of soap!
    Evik
    My blog: http://curious-soapmaker.com

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Evik View Post
      I think it might have been both flowers and vanilla fragrance. To my experience vanilla fragrance discolors heavily soap to tones of yellow to brown, although in CP soap.

      Thanks Evik, I did read somewhere a short while ago about vanilla based fragrances causing problems - I guess I'll have to experiment a bit! I've also bookmarked your blog to have a good read through although I don't think I'm ready for CP soap yet!

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      • #4
        Can you find a supplier over there, who has actually tested their fragrances and can advise as to how they act in various kinds of soap? Also, many manufacturers of fragrances can also tell you how they will work in different kinds of soap processes.

        I think also that anything you add to clear M&P, that has some color to it, is going to affect the color of the soap - i.e., it is not going to be totally clear M&P anymore. Did your FO have a brown-ish hue to it?

        There's a great supplier in Washington (state) that tests their products and can advise how they act in various processes, but you would probably rather buy from someone closer to you, to save money.

        Like Evik, I think it's probably a combination of the vanilla and the flowers.
        Incorporating botanicals is definitely tricky (though some might find it easy). You might think about adding them on the top, rather than mixing them in.

        Evik's website is terrific, isn't it!?

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        • #5
          Its from the vanilla, any fragrance with vanilla in it will discolour Melt & pour soap.
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          • #6
            Grannie is right that in a MP soap, any slight color of the fragrance will be seen. Also, as she suggest, find a supplier giving this information, I know that for example there is http://www.gracefruit.com in Scotland that states the discoloration, although I think it is rather in CP soap.

            Grannie - thank you for liking my blog, I do my best... I have much more things to write about but just no time :-/. I have another blog in my native tongue (slovak), which is a bit older and much more populated
            Long live your bar of soap!
            Evik
            My blog: http://curious-soapmaker.com

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            • #7
              Because I use my fragrances to make my own soaps I always make sure they don't contain Vallinin (the chemical that will discolour MP soap) so I do sell a Vanilla Cream, Chocolate and Coconut that don't discolour - tried and tested

              Also just to say it is quite likely the flowers have caused some of the browness - unless completely dry, any flowers will be likely to introduce microbes and/or react to the moisture in the MP Base. This means you may get mould or dramatic discolouration on your soaps when you use petals. The best ones to use are things like lavender or heather buds or herb leaves.


              Hope this helps

              Jude
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