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  • What exactly is a rocaile?

    probably stupid question but its important for a pattern
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    It's an elaborate style of decoration often using scroll work. It came from the rococo art style and can be in furniture, architecture etc. This is an example

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    • #3
      it's on a packet of seed beads i have,
      miyuki rocailles size 11, i don;t think it means rococo but thanks for answering
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      • #4
        As Pete says it comes from the rococo art style. Its French and means rock or stone and is used in decoration, usually scrolls and shells etc.
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        • #5
          Ciren, 'rocaille' is another name for a seed bead, that's all. When I first started making jewellery in the 70s they were always known by that name. It's only recently that 'seed bead' has been used more commonly.
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          • #6
            I think rocaille is a French word that means/has roots in the English word rock or small pebble (I have also read that it means rock work). I just typed it into a translation tool online and found it meant rock - but I'd trust a native French speaker foremost.

            If you are following a pattern for using seed bead rocailles than in all likelihood the size will matter and even the 'brand'. I know seed beaders will be better at explaining how/when size is necessary. How do you intend to use them or are you just intrigued?
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              • #8
                i am making seed beaded flowers, using size 11 seedbeads, i have a set of myuki rocailles but i got a funney feeing they are smaller than normal size 11, i wantde to be sure before i started.

                heres a link to a picture of what i am making,

                http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/c...e.jpg&newest=1
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                • #9
                  Many bead companies use the term for seed beads. And in this case, size matters
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                  • #10
                    Ciren, seed bead sizes can vary slightly with different manufacturers. I've never used miyuki myself, but I'm sure if you use the same brand of beads for your pattern it will work out fine, although maybe slightly smaller.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ciren View Post
                      i am making seed beaded flowers, using size 11 seedbeads, i have a set of myuki rocailles but i got a funney feeing they are smaller than normal size 11, i wantde to be sure before i started.

                      heres a link to a picture of what i am making,

                      http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/c...e.jpg&newest=1
                      Japanese seedies are the best there are. They're machine made so they are uniform in size and shape and great for precision work like your flower, because they sit so neatly next to each other. Japanese seedies tend to be cylinder shaped, with straight sides, whereas other types are more rounded - might that be why your Miyukis look smaller?
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                      • #12
                        I was thinking along the same lines as Heather above...regarding the precision cut of some seed beads against others. Some 'ordinary' seedies can vary quite a bit even though they're meant to be the same size and so the pattern can look a bit untidy. If you're after precision, same size ones, I know there's a name for some beginning with 'T' I think - I know I know, not much use, but I heard it on an Aunties Beads tutorials and didn't take much notice of it! sorry about that!! (I'm going off to google to see if I can find them!)

                        Toho! that's the name I was thinking of...mind you I also found Preciosa, Delica and Hex...but Toho was the name I'm sure of the most precise Japanese Myoku seed beads. (Phew! I was worried it was going to begin with a completely different letter lol)
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nettie View Post
                          I was thinking along the same lines as Heather above...regarding the precision cut of some seed beads against others. Some 'ordinary' seedies can vary quite a bit even though they're meant to be the same size and so the pattern can look a bit untidy. If you're after precision, same size ones, I know there's a name for some beginning with 'T' I think - I know I know, not much use, but I heard it on an Aunties Beads tutorials and didn't take much notice of it! sorry about that!! (I'm going off to google to see if I can find them!)

                          Toho! that's the name I was thinking of...mind you I also found Preciosa, Delica and Hex...but Toho was the name I'm sure of the most precise Japanese Myoku seed beads. (Phew! I was worried it was going to begin with a completely different letter lol)
                          I love Aunties Beads tutes, they're so clear and I love Karla's accent, it makes the instructions much easier to understand somehow!

                          Delicas are made by Miyuki, they come in some gorgeous colours. A friend of mine in California makes the most amazing 3-d boxes and Christmas ornaments using them, they give a very even, very smooth finish. Hexes are six-sided beads, I use them where I want a bit of light but not actual out and out sparkle. Toho seedies are lovely to work with, their other beads are really lovely too, especially their glass pearls. I have some very pale blue pearls with a slightly paler blue 'vein' - they look a bit like stretch marks! - but can I get any more? Grump.
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                          • #14
                            Toho and Miyuki are both brands of seed beads, both Japanese, and both great, uniform quality.

                            They both make round seed beads, and cylinder seed beads, as mentioned by Heather. Miyuki's cylinders are called Delicas, and Toho's are called Treasures. Cylinder beads are more uniform, and give a smoother look than round seed beads (more expensive too). I'm just using some delicas for a design, and I'd say they are slightly smaller than round seeds, so maybe that's what you've got, Ciren. Have to say, though, I love the round seed beads...I like the more textured look they give.
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                            • #15
                              i can't decide what colour to do next which is my problem i got some blue ones which i think would be great i'm just not sure i would have enough to do a entire rose
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