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  • Are you against animal testing?

    Please click on the link below to take you to an RSPCA page regarding this issue, and where you can find information on how to petition your local MP's on this matter.

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    Which link?


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    • #3
      Ooops THIS link:

      http://www.giveanimalsavoice.org.uk/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_ campaign=23-04-09%20Newsletter%20send%20All%20ISPs%20COM%20(1)&ut m_content=

      Hope that works now!!
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      • #4
        Hmmmmmmm not sure about this one!

        How can the RSPCA be against all animal testing when they employ an army of vets and spend millions of pounds on drugs and vaccinations in their shelters every year?

        Don't get me wrong, I am against testing for cosmetics and household products, but in my opinion there has to be testing for drugs especially veterinary drugs. It's not ideal but in order to develop and create safe effective medicines for our pets then they have to be tested.
        All the medicines your vet prescribes your pets are tested on animals! (unless they are homeopathic)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by hdflred View Post
          Hmmmmmmm not sure about this one!

          How can the RSPCA be against all animal testing when they employ an army of vets and spend millions of pounds on drugs and vaccinations in their shelters every year?

          Don't get me wrong, I am against testing for cosmetics and household products, but in my opinion there has to be testing for drugs especially veterinary drugs. It's not ideal but in order to develop and create safe effective medicines for our pets then they have to be tested.
          All the medicines your vet prescribes your pets are tested on animals! (unless they are homeopathic)

          Stands back and waits for the backlash.............
          Definitely didn't agree with cosmetic testing!!!

          I agree - even with human medicines many have been developed using animal testing.
          Yes I know the old arguments re penicillin and others, but if it were not for Mr Banting making his dog Marjorie diabetic, then treating her with porcine insulin, diabetics would still be dying within months of diagnosis - for example.

          Emotive I know - but when it comes to my loved ones I want a drug that will cure.
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          • #6
            The RSPCA aren't entirely against animal testing, they do work with laboratories to make animal welfare better for the animals involved. This includes sponsoring conferences for people involved in the research. Medical research is never going to work properly with computer simulated models, as there could always be the get more cases like the clinical trial back in 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4808836.stm
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            • #7
              I know alot of people will disagree with me but I do think testing of drugs has to be done on animals if it is for a greater good.

              I have been a position where I had to watch my child dying , I would have accepted any drug that has been tested on animals if it a) cured her or b) alleviated her suffering

              it is only my opinion and I don't expect people to agree with me
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              • #8
                It's a matter of relevance.....................an Eskimo will not attract a lot of attention wearing sealskin boots, but Naomi Campbell would. Drugs have to be tested on something, and until we're allowed to use paedophiles it will have to be other living species. The important bit is what they are testing for - if a monkey has to have it's lips burned off to see if a lipstick is safe then that isn't right, if a rat has to be injected with cancerous cells to find a cure then that is probably the only way to do it. It's not just down to suffering.............it's down to reasoning. Ban cosmetic testing tomorrow, but until we get a decent supply of paedophiles we'll be stuck with 'scientific' animal testing. It stinks, but it's also very very human.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Peter View Post
                  It's a matter of relevance.....................an Eskimo will not attract a lot of attention wearing sealskin boots, but Naomi Campbell would. Drugs have to be tested on something, and until we're allowed to use paedophiles it will have to be other living species. The important bit is what they are testing for - if a monkey has to have it's lips burned off to see if a lipstick is safe then that isn't right, if a rat has to be injected with cancerous cells to find a cure then that is probably the only way to do it. It's not just down to suffering.............it's down to reasoning. Ban cosmetic testing tomorrow, but until we get a decent supply of paedophiles we'll be stuck with 'scientific' animal testing. It stinks, but it's also very very human.
                  Cosmetic testing has been banned!!!


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                  • #10
                    ..................so has driving above 70mph. It still goes on.

                    The loophole

                    This is certainly a step in the right direction. HOWEVER, there is no ban on selling cosmetics in this country which have been tested abroad. This, therefore, does little to help the animals, as companies just carry out their testing outside of Britain. As a result, most of the products we see on our shelves are NOT cruelty-free, contrary to the beliefs of most people. Countries such as the U.S. and Japan require that all new ingredients must be animal tested to ensure safety. This means that every 'new improved super formula' we see advertised has invariably involved much cruelty in its development. Generally, finished products do not have to be tested if they comprise a combination of previously tested substances, unless it is suspected that that particular combination will cause a toxic reaction.


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                    Last edited by Peter; 24-04-2009, 05:51 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Can't say I'm against animal testing when it comes to saving millions of humans lives. What I am against however is the conditions some of these animals are kept in and are treated.
                      There should be some kind of a licensing and inspection thing carried out on these types of labs on a regular basis. to keep cruelty to a minimum.

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                      • #12
                        The home office provide licensing for all in vivo work on animals. In vitro does not require licensing as it is on parts or animals or individual cells. With a licence you are inspected several times a year, and have to keep records of breeding, animal usage and health checks. To keep any animals that are bred with specific genetic traits (naked mice, obesity, suseptibility to cancer etc...) also requires a licence even if you are just doing in vitro work on their organs. There is also the welfare of animals act to keep everyone on their toes too! There is constant research on how best to care for them too by the same labs!
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                        • #13
                          I'm a 100% against animal testing. Soo many companies do testing & one of them (I think are one of the biggest) I don't buy anything with their name on the back. I won't put who they are in case it's not allowed on here & I get a telling off, I'll just give a hint.. P.G. I've found it hard to go shopping though without picking products up that I know belongs to a company that deals in animal testing
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