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    got a bee in my bonnet and need to let it out before it stings me !!
    think this is an age thing but I feel very passionate about things and want to put the world to right.
    my son says nothing is going to change and he's probably right but if everyone said that then nothing would ever get done would it.
    my daughter goes to college and I remember when we went to find out about the hairdressing course she now attends we were told that if we earnt less that £30000 a year then she would be entitled to EMA which can be up to £30 a week and then 3 bonuses a year of up to £100.
    Now every parent apart from me got up to get the forms !! because me and hubby both work ( he does 2 jobs to make ends meet ) she is not entitled to it.
    Her friends that get it have no intention of getting a job because they don't have to .and although she jokes about it our daugher is not happy that because we're both working she can't get it , she always says why dont' one of you give up work and then I can get EMA , I know she doesn't mean it but it must be hard when all her friends get it and she doesn't.
    she worked full time all summer to help pay for the hairdressing kit because although we're both working we pay the bills but theres not loads left for luxurys we certainly couldn't afford to give her £30 a week.
    once she started the course there was a bit of a to do about them all paying for a hair colour, my daughter objected to paying for it as she she knew how little the college actually paid for it in the first place and the tutor turned round and said 'well use your EMA it was immediately assumed that she got it.
    One thing that really gets my goat is the fact that a friend of ours earns an absolute fortune , a lot more than me and hubby put together yet because him and his wife have split up and the children live with her then they would get EMA its just not right
    Then this week I read in the paper that you're often better off financially if you split up , a couple were £5000 a year better off because they were no longer together. where is the incentive for people to stay together , work hard and provide for their family.
    another of our friends sons wants to go to university , he is extremely clever but will leave university with loads of debt and will get very little financial help while he is there , but if his Mum and Dad split up he would get a lot more help and not so much debt at the end of it.
    you've got that case thats been in the paper where a lady is living in a big house living on benefits ( which we're paying for ) yet if we couldn't keep up with our morgage repayments our house would be repossessed.
    I know its not going to do anything but I'm going to write a letter to my local MP as I would like him to explain how it is fair
    sorry for the rant
    what do you all think or do you just think I'm mad lol
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  • #2
    great soap box... I completely empathise & have totally been there with the 'where's the incentive' wrath some days as it seems the harder you work the less you gain sometimes .... ah well I'd rather be working so maybe that makes me mad too
    Mel

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    • #3
      so I'm not being a completely over the top mad moaning middle aged woman then
      why can't the powers that be see that its not fair !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      I think I might try and become prime minister lol
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      • #4
        the trouble is I have taken on the government once already and won ( about my old child care qualification , I won't bore you and go into details lol ) and I can feel it all boiling up inside me again
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        • #5
          Originally posted by sunrise View Post
          so I'm not being a completely over the top mad moaning middle aged woman then
          why can't the powers that be see that its not fair !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          I think I might try and become prime minister lol
          Yayyy - lets all vote for the right honerable SunRise
          Mel

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sunrise View Post
            the trouble is I have taken on the government once already and won ( about my old child care qualification , I won't bore you and go into details lol ) and I can feel it all boiling up inside me again
            Nahh.. how about some chocolate .... I have loads left after christmas?
            Mel

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            • #7
              chocolate sounds good but why should we all just put up with this its sooooooooooooooooo wrong
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              • #8
                I know exactly what you mean sunrise!

                I had the same problem that because my parents between them earnt over £30,000 a year I wasn't entitled to a penny. My parents could quite easily cover money for buses passes, dinner, books etc (which I think is what EMA is intended for).
                I was never given pocket money, rather anything I needed or (within reason) wanted I was bought.

                What sticks out in my mind is that a friend got EMA because her parents were separated, but her dad gave her £100 pocket money a month, her mum gave her £150 pocket money a month, and her nan gave her £50 pocket money a month. On top of all that she had a part time job.
                So even before she got £30 a week for EMA she was getting at least £100 from elsewhere!

                I wasn't too fussed about EMA before her story, but even though the rules for claiming make sense, it doesn't work out fairly
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                • #9
                  mind you at least she got up and got herself a part time job , my daughters friends don't work because they don't have to and I think having a job whether it be part time or full time teaches you so much and teaches you the value of money not that my daughter agrees with me she wants it handed to her on a plate lol
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                  • #10
                    I used to think like that, until my dad got me a job, and I had to turn up!
                    I feel really bad about how lazy I used to be
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                    • #11
                      well I'm just in the process of writing to a Lord !! and then I will write to my MP
                      I know it won't do anything but it makes me feel better !!
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                      • #12
                        My heart goes out to you. Years ago a family was ashamed if they lived on "hand-outs". Now it seems one is punnished for trying to be independant.
                        I know just how you feel, I have the tee shirt for that one. I was a one parent family with 3 kids for 12 years and because I worked, long hours too, I was just over the threshhold for any help at all. This was 20 odd years ago. Things are supposed to be better now........................??
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sunrise View Post
                          chocolate sounds good but why should we all just put up with this its sooooooooooooooooo wrong
                          I know... I guess it was a flippant comment but then again chocolate might help you get back from boiling point (i.e. before you write your letters of protest which will probably be much better written calmly & factually....)
                          Mel

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                          • #14
                            heres my letter to the lord
                            watch out gordon brown you're next lol

                            I would like to ask a question about EMA as I would like it explained to me how certain situations can possibly be fair.
                            A bit of background first. My daughter is training to be a hairdresser , when we went for the first visit to learn more about the course it was explained that if the household earned less than £30000 then the student could be entitled to EMA, every parent apart from me got up to take the forms.
                            My daughter worked full time all summer to help pay for her hairdressing kit as although my husband and I both work ( my husband actually does 2 jobs to make ends meet ) we earn slightly more than the £30000 and although we cover the mortgage and other household bills money is fairly tight and every penny is accounted for. I also think it is important to learn the value of money and try to teach that to my children.
                            Once she started the course there was a bit of an issue about the class paying for a hair colour they were using , my daughter said the college were asking the students to pay too much for the colour and the tutor turned round and said 'well use your EMA money ' it was just naturally assumed that she received it.
                            A lot of her friends who receive it have no intention of getting a job to help fund their way through college and although I can see the benefit in my daughter having a part time job so that she learns more about 'real life' she has just lost her job at Woolworths and is having trouble getting another one as no one is advertising for staff due to the credit crunch , I can see that it must be very frustrating for her to watch her friends get their EMA and she gets nothing.
                            A lot of her friends parents don't work and are quite happy to live on benefits, as well as trying to make a good life for ourselves we think us working shows our children good values and we like to think we are good role models.
                            Another point which is extremely unfair regarding EMA is the fact that I know of at least 2 cases where the Dad earns a lot of money ( far more than my husband and my wages put together ) yet because they have split up with their wives and the children live with the Mum they are entitled to EMA this really doesn't seem fair.
                            What incentive is there at the moment for people to stay together, work hard and provide for their family.
                            Only this week there was an article in the paper about how quite often you are better off financially if you split up , how can this be right.
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                            • #15
                              I fully agree with all thats been said, there are little or no incentives for being at work or being a family unit , we would as a family be better off if my OH didn't work and claimed disability for his knees, touch wood he never has too as I know this would go against his work ethic.

                              my 4 boys have never claimed EMA , we have never really looked into it when they attended college or 6th form, they all went out and found part time jobs and I think this if anything made them realise money doesn't go far.

                              I know families who are now 2nd generation non workers through choice, and they are all better off than us, to the point when one 17 yr olds xbox broke 4 days after Christmas his mum went out immediatly and bought a brand new !!, I don't think we had £20 to spare after crimble never mind £100+.

                              I worked full time from when my youngest was 6 weeks old and after each pregnancy went back to work up until 5 years ago when I met my OH and we made cut backs to allow me to be a full time carer for my daughter, it has a some points driven me mad being at home and I don't think I could have spent a lifetime not working. Hopefully we have set a good example to our children and they realise that yes although getting up for work everyday can be carp and tedious it can also be rewarding and fulfilling.I'm sure Sunrise this will also be the case with your children.

                              and don't get me started on my ex who hasn't worked for the past 6 years and won't work in case he has to pay more than £1 a week in CSA for his kids !!!

                              can I just add in no way is my post about people who can't work due to disabilities , its about those who work the system so they don't have to !



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