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**Millsy83** · 11-03-2009, 09:57 AM

I would tell the organiser.
If they're being strict on handmade goods only, why should they be let off??

Also, if you know where they get the soap from, why should you miss out on sales because they can't be bothered to make their own?
You're not doing it to cause trouble (I don't think??!) and it shouldn't be a case of one rule for them, and another for everyone else.
Be honest with the organiser, it's up to them what they do with the information.

Rant over

**onlyme** · 11-03-2009, 10:11 AM

I'd tell them too. Why should you go to all the trouble of making your own and paying all that money for a stall if they can't be bothered! In my book, that's called cheating. Do yourself a favour - tell em'!

**CeeGee** · 11-03-2009, 10:15 AM

I agree, tell them! If it's a handmade fair, everything should be handmade. No exceptions. You'd be doing the organisers a favour.

**beadsbydesign** · 11-03-2009, 10:26 AM

If the organiser is switched on enough to write handmade only then they'll be the sort of people who will really get behind the ethos. Telling them in a controlled and careful manner backing up your claims with the evidence of the web sites, then it is down to the organiser to sort out.
I know it's difficult to do, even more so when it is your direct competition. you don't want to sound as though you are just out to nobble to competition. I faced a similar dilema at a fair I wentt to. It was sheer coincidence that the day before the fair I had looked at some amber jewellery. i was shocked to see the exact same jewellery on a stall claiming to be made by the woman. I approached her and asked her some questions including what glue she used. When her reply was superglue. I knew it wasn't her work as superglue dries with a white tinge and the areas of glue that were visable was crystal clear. She was edgy and when I asked her about making a piece custom, she said it wasn't possible and yet she'd apparently done some very elaborate silver work. I approached the organiser and told her which site to look at. The woman was then banned from future events.

**Millsy83** · 11-03-2009, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by beadsbydesign View Post

ITelling them in a controlled and careful manner backing up your claims with the evidence of the web sites, then it is down to the organiser to sort out

Yes, you don't need to be rude about it, just tell them what you know.
If they're that bothered about the handmade rule (which it sounds as though they are) then they'll do the right thing!

**claireybear** · 11-03-2009, 10:34 AM

I just want to agree with the others, you should definitely let the organiser know.

It is people like that who give crafting and handmade stuff a bad name - if they are allowed to get away with it people will start thinking the shoddy wholesale stuff they sell is typical of handmade stuff and will start boycotting craft fairs etc.

**AnnieAnna** · 11-03-2009, 10:38 AM

This is awkward for you.
Could you approach it by feigning dopiness and saying something like I have it in my head that the fair was for handmade goods only. I've noticed ****** is trading. Have I misunderstood? If it true, you could add - I have some bought in ****** that I wasn't going to bring. Would I be allowed to sell it?
AnnieAnna

**0103media** · 11-03-2009, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by greannancrafts View Post

I now find out that there is another soap stall going - they do not make their own soaps, I know the wholesaler they get them from. They have even taken the pictures from the wholesale website and put on their own website without even touching them up.

Maybe think the other way around... Make sure you have a large sign saying something like "handmade by me" ....

As you have made them shout about it.. Make sure people know whats gone in to making your soaps...

Its one of the most common mistakes people make to compare mass made vs hand made but if no one knows your is made by you the price normally wins..

Hope that helps..

**silvermaid** · 11-03-2009, 10:54 AM

I agree, you should tell them. It's not fair on any of the stallholders if they are allowed, especially if others have taken stuff off their stall to comply with the 'handmade only' rule.

Melanie

**JABBY** · 11-03-2009, 10:56 AM

i think you are right to let the organisers know, especially as their own info says the items should be homemade. How many times do you visit a craft fair and see bought in items for sale. Far more often than for my liking.
Also how many times has a crafter turned up a craft fair, with hand made goods, only to find similar bought in products on another stall at a fraction of the price. I know this happens, because it has happened to me.
Call me old fashioned if you will, but when I visit a craft fair, I want the person behind the table to have made the items on the table.

regards
john
www.jbwoodcraft.co.uk

**beckyboo** · 11-03-2009, 11:55 AM

Jane.
I would tell them, I know a local lady who is selling soap buns and cakes from a well know large online wholesalers and passing them off as handmade by her daughter.
When i told her i knew the site she got them from ,she went mad at me and told me her daughter supplies the wholesalers from her kitchen business !!
I emailed the wholesalers and asked them this , they told me it was them that supplied her and not vice versa, I know one other person who also got in touch with AW the wholesalers over this woman

If its a local event to us it may be the same lady

**greannancrafts** · 11-03-2009, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by beckyboo View Post

Jane.
I would tell them, I know a local lady who is selling soap buns and cakes from a well know large online wholesalers and passing them off as handmade by her daughter.
When i told her i knew the site she got them from ,she went mad at me and told me her daughter supplies the wholesalers from her kitchen business !!
I emailed the wholesalers and asked them this , they told me it was them that supplied her and not vice versa, I know one other person who also got in touch with AW the wholesalers over this woman

If its a local event to us it may be the same lady

Do you mean these?
http://www.ancientwisdom.biz/forms/soapc/

Jane

**beckyboo** · 11-03-2009, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by greannancrafts View Post

Do you mean these?
http://www.ancientwisdom.biz/forms/soapc/

Jane

yep ,thats them, if it is the same lady she gets in handmade events by telling people they are handmade by her daughter

**can i just add i don't want to knock anybody who sells premade items, ,but there is a big difference to buying in and making (don't want to offend anyone

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**crafty-clarie** · 11-03-2009, 12:24 PM

There is a place for all of us

and there are many fairs who allow both handmade and bought in - their perogative (how do you spell???). However, if this fair is 'Handmade' then Handmade it should be and again presumably by the person who is selling it!

These people are misrepresenting the product if they are not admitting that it is not handmade by themselves and as a potential customer I think that it is wrong. I think that you should make the organisers aware.

and maybe cos i'm local I will be a customer.

Claire x

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